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From dry soil to shade and fruit: The solution isn’t more water, but a new relationship with it
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From dry soil to shade and fruit: The solution isn’t more water, but a new relationship with it

With Marius Müller

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Müller. Who knew that water, the thing we take for granted and can't live without, is so misunderstood!


In this episode, Marius shares how shifting the way we think about water changes everything. He left a real estate career to work on land-based regeneration, and now creates tools and communities that help people restore ecosystems from the ground up.

We talk about:

  • Why “having water” is the wrong question

  • What it means to create conditions where water wants to stay

  • How cooling soil—not adding more water—makes a bigger impact

  • Why fighting nature keeps us stuck, and what happens when we stop


Sound Bites

  • “Water is not for having.”

  • “Life likes life. Water likes to be cold.”

  • “Creating conditions where water wants to come.”

  • “We need to cool down the soil to retain water.”

  • “It’s about sharing the water with other people.”


Time stamps

  • 00:00 – Introduction to Water and Regeneration

  • 02:01 – Marius’s Journey and Connection to Nature

  • 08:26 – The Importance of Water in Agriculture

  • 11:36 – Understanding Water’s Nature and Its Role

  • 17:08 – Rethinking Our Relationship with Water

  • 23:00 – Practice: Build a Relationship with Water

  • 25:34 – Community-Led Regeneration and Its Impact


Key Takeaways

  • Soil health is essential to water retention and long-term life.

  • Nature responds to conditions. Control isn't the goal—invitation is.

  • Community-driven action creates more lasting change than top-down solutions.

  • Water isn’t a resource to hold—it’s part of a living cycle.

  • Regeneration starts with attention, not just technique.


Practice: Build a Relationship with Water

  • Watch water—rain, a stream, a puddle

  • Notice where water moves, collects, and disappears

  • You are a sack of breathing water, notice how it feels to be water


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